Andrew & Ellen Holzum sit down with Fr. Mattingly to discuss all the ways they are pursuing Sainthood in Kansas City! They each share how they eventually came to make the faith their own—sending each of them on the pursuit for Catholic community, which they ultimately found in City on a Hill. They both recently decided on a Plan of Life and share the benefits and struggles of sticking to it. Ellen also shares her practice of mental prayer and the personal apostolate she started at the Catholic school where she teaches. Show Notes: - Daily Rosary Podcast - "Rediscover Catholicism" by Matthew Kelly - "Time for God" by Jacques Philippe - "Theology for Beginners" by Frank Sheed