Fred Bret-Mounet, CISO at Clarify Health Solutions, reminisces about negotiating a 25% salary increase and still being drastically underpaid, eating pasta every day, and learning that security can't just be focused on building Fort Knox. About Fred: "t all started with early e-commerce sites storing item prices client side!   A tinkerer from an early age and the constant need to feed my curiosity have been critical skills to my Information Security career.   With strong technical skills that I keep current and some amount of business acumen, I realized early that my role was not to build mini Fort Knox everywhere I went but instead teach people new skills: I am an evangelist helping organizations understand enough about the risk dimension associated to security and privacy - just as we understand financial, brand or contractual / legal dimensions in our daily activities.   I am also an enforcer! Not the one that carries a weapon - instead, I keep us honest by providing a platform for self policing. SPONSER NOTE: Support for Cloud Ace podcast comes from SANS Institute. If you like the topics covered in this podcast and would like to learn more about cloud security, SANS Cloud Security curriculum is here to support your journey into building, deploying, and managing secure cloud infrastructure, platforms, and applications. Whether you are on a technical flight plan, or a leadership one, SANS Cloud Security curriculum has resources, training, and certifications to fit your needs. Focus on where the cloud is going, not where it is today. Your organization is going to need someone with hands-on technical experience and cloud security-specific knowledge. You will be prepared not only for your current role, but also for a cutting-edge future in cloud security. Review and Download Cloud Security Resources: sans.org/cloud-security/ Join our growing and diverse community of cloud security professionals on your platform of choice: Discord | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube