If we're lucky, we all get old; and yet, the idea of aging creates so much anxiety in many of us. Is it possible to have a less fraught relationship with aging? This week, Eva talks to bestselling author, Isabel Allende, about the complexities of getting older -- the things we can look forward to, rather than be afraid of, and what we can do today to reframe our connection to aging. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.