In this episode we speak with Patrick Langford, a now newly qualified EP from the Institute of Eductation, who completed his thesis exploring what makes consultation effective in EP practice.We talk about all things consultation, particularly thinking about the application of consultation theory to practice and a consideration of what consultation is and how this might differ depending on your training institution or experience. Patrick discusses some of his findings from his thesis and what this might mean for the profession.We found this a really stimulating discussion and hope you enjoy listening to hearing Patrick speak with us.