You can pre-order my new book, The Good Ally, in bookstores now: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-good-ally/nova-reid/9780008439484 In this episode I talk to Natalie, an educational psychologist, mum of two and one of my anti-racism students. Natalie and I had an incredibly raw and vulnerable conversation about her anti-racism journey and she shares her experience of being in an interracial relationship with two mixed heritage children while also working in education. This is a really truthful conversation about how to become an ally beyond performative action. Natalie generously opens up about her journey, leaning into the messiness of anti racist work and imploring her fellow white folk to do the same. If this podcast resonates with you, please leave a review