Join us and Carly Severn (KQED San Francisco) to talk about Mike Nichols' 2004, super emo and eminently re-watchable melodrama, Closer. It's a game of sexy Tetris between four hot people, but also a contrapuntal reflection on appearance and reality, and also a movie about two dudes who can't get over the fact that the women they've slept with have slept with other men. We somehow hit on nice guy-isms, the film's use of elision, love, passion, and Damien Rice. Also, did you know that many of the photographs in Anna's studio and apartment are of famous philosophers?! Check it out! Carly on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TeacupInTheBay Cows on Twitter: https://twitter.com/cowspod Cows on the web: https://cowspod.wordpress.com/ Cows shirts: https://cowspod.threadless.com/