Michael Kammers & David Nichtern offer perspective on the nature of freedom and how mindful leadership effects the systems we live within. This podcast is brought to you by BetterHelp. Click to receive 10% off your first month with your own licensed professional therapist: betterhelp.com/beherenow In this timely David's View episode, Michael Kammers joins David for a discussion which dives into the importance of mindful leadership. Taking an honest look at our current leadership models in the United States, the Dharma Moon Duo offers insight into dancing and conflict resolution, ego and intention, capacity and dysfunction, as well as discernment, communication, and freedom. "A leader has to take a big aerial view of the whole situation and somehow become a transformer. A leader has to know how to transform energy—to not reject energy, to see people's gifts, to see their obstacles, and continuously re-orchestrate the situation so that people have a chance to grow." – David Nichtern  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.