Ruby Franke began making videos on YouTube and, over time, created a pretty large following. The videos on her channel, named 8 Passengers, focused on her family of eight as they navigated through life. However, the audience began to see some disturbing signs in the Franke's parenting. Join Mike and Morf as they discuss Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. Jodi was a licensed therapist who began working with the Franke family. But she bonded with Ruby to the point that she began following her advice and teachings. This relationship was combustible, and it caused irreparable harm to the Franke children. You can help support the show at patreon.com/criminology An Emash Digital production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices