In this episode, Dr Rick Brown interviews colleagues in the Queensland Police Service (QPS) and discusses the collaborative project undertaken between the AIC and QPS to better understand outlaw motorcycle gangs in Australia. In 2019 and 2020, QPS interviewed over 50 former gang members to understand their personal journey into motorcycle gangs, reasons for leaving and the impact of their association with the gang. This episode explores these findings and how QPS shifted from intelligence gathering to empirical research for this project.  You can find the related AIC research at https://www.aic.gov.au/subject/omcg You can find out more about the QPS Exit Program at https://www.police.qld.gov.au/initiatives/omcg-exit-program  Content warning: this episode contains explicit language.