In the attempt to resurrect live theatre while navigating constantly shifting terrain, how far can hope get you? How do you make theatre when the world keeps changing, when time keeps collapsing, when the earth beneath your feet keeps sinking into bog? And how do you communicate with a government who seems to be operating on a different frequency somewhere in a separate universe?  In order of appearance: Kwame Kwei-Armah (Director) Adele Thomas (Director, Presenter) Sunita Hinduja (Stage Manager) Jessica Hung Han Yun (Lighting Designer) Roy Williams (Writer) Clint Dyer (Director) Produced by Curtain Call Presented by Adele Thomas   Written by Adele Thomas and Freddie Crossley Sound engineered by John Schwab  Music by Freddie Crossley Support for this episode and original concept for the Freelancers Make podcast from Sally Beck Wippman Special thanks for this episode goes out to Athena Stevens and Alistair Cope Transcription by Kelsie Acton. Freelancers Make Theatre Work is a community for the 200,000 self-employed theatre makers in the UK - it is currently run by a team of incredible volunteers from around the industry. Follow us @freelancersmaketheatrework   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices