Dan Roberts, host of the “Tech Whisperers” podcast, and a mentor, coach and leader to CISOs and other tech-focused C-suite members for nearly four decades, is today's guest. We talk about Roberts' earliest work, including coining the term “Developing the human side of technology” all the way back in 1984, to spearheading the CyberLX program for CISOs and those aspiring to be. Roberts also provides a four-stage growth chart for CISOs that, quite frankly, scales well to just about any tech career and teases a very exciting guest on the “Tech Whisperers” podcast! 0:00 - CISO's need leadership experience 4:47 - How Dan Roberts got into cybersecurity and tech 6:34 - What was tech like in the '80s? 9:20 - Common difficulties as a CISO 16:52 - What is CyberLX? 24:10 - Joining CyberLX to become a CISO 29:50 - How to become a CISO 34:45 - Cybersecurity and soft skills 38:05 - Skills needed in tech and security now 40:30 - Leading with the seven Cs 43:00 - Start your CISO career journey 46:23 - Getting uncomfortable to evolve in cybersecurity 47:49 - What is the Tech Whisperers podcast? 52:06 - Tech for Good project 54:18 - Exciting new projects for Roberts 56:30 - Outro – Get your FREE cybersecurity training resources: https://www.infosecinstitute.com/free – View Cyber Work Podcast transcripts and additional episodes: https://www.infosecinstitute.com/podcast About Infosec Infosec’s mission is to put people at the center of cybersecurity. We help IT and security professionals advance their careers with skills development and certifications while empowering all employees with security awareness and phishing training to stay cyber-safe at work and home. More than 70% of the Fortune 500 have relied on Infosec Skills to develop their security talent, and more than 5 million learners worldwide are more cyber-resilient from Infosec IQ’s security awareness training. Learn more at infosecinstitute.com.