Today's guest is Anthony Pacilio, VP Neurodiverse Solutions at CAI. I met Pacilio at this year’s ISACA Digital Trust World event in Boston, and I was immediately fascinated with his insights on hiring and attracting neurodiverse professionals in security, IT, engineering and related industries, all of which suffer a skills gap and all of which are in need of new insights and working methods. Pacilio and I have a substantive conversation about changing the structure of the “6-hour marathon” interview process, the difference between an employee who stays in one job role vs. an employee who stays in but re-imagines that one job role, and why this new way of hiring and recruitment can lead to nothing less than an entire transformation of a company’s work culture.  0:00 - Neurodiversity and cybersecurity leadership 4:18 - Pacilio's early years with tech 7:40 - Shifting roles in cybersecurity 12:55 - VP of neurodiverse solutions 16:10 - CAI's dedication to neurodiversity  19:27 - Neurodiverse solutions in cybersecurity and IT 23:50 - Rethinking the cybersecurity role interview 26:32 - Adopting new interview strategies 33:03 - Examples and success stories 35:30 - Where neurodiverse workers succeed in cybersecurity 42:04 - Tips for neurodiverse learners in cybersecurity 45:58 - Advice for new cybersecurity professionals 52:30 - Learn more about CAI 53:05 - Outro – Get your FREE cybersecurity training resources: https://www.infosecinstitute.com/free – View Cyber Work Podcast transcripts and additional episodes: https://www.infosecinstitute.com/podcast About Infosec Infosec’s mission is to put people at the center of cybersecurity. We help IT and security professionals advance their careers with skills development and certifications while empowering all employees with security awareness and phishing training to stay cyber-safe at work and home. More than 70% of the Fortune 500 have relied on Infosec Skills to develop their security talent, and more than 5 million learners worldwide are more cyber-resilient from Infosec IQ’s security awareness training. Learn more at infosecinstitute.com.