Today on Cyber Work, we are talking operational technology, or OT, security with guest, Robin Berthier of Network Perception. From his earliest studies to his time as an academic researcher, Berthier has dedicated his career to securing the intersection between operational technology and network security, with some pretty imaginative solutions to show for it. In today’s episode, Berthier explains why modern OT security means thinking more about the mechanics of the machinery than the swiftness of the software solutions, the big conversation that infrastructure and ICS Security need to have about nation-state attackers (and finally are having!) and Berthier's best piece of career advice turns into some excellent thoughts on the importance of maintaining your network… and I don’t mean routing and switching! 0:00 - Industrial control systems cybersecurity 1:54 - How Robin Berthier got into tech 3:38 - Majoring in cybersecurity 4:55 - Intrusion detection systems 9:18 - Mechanical and cybersecurity tools 12:33 Launching Network Perception 17:03 - Current state of ICS and OT infrastructure 20:24 - Cyberattacks on industrial control systems 28:35 -Skills needed to work in industrial control systems 35:19 - Where are ICS security jobs? 36:39 - Getting into local OT systems 37:55 - Skills gaps in ICS 39:21 - Best piece of career advice 41:01 - Cultivating a work network 43:28 - What is Network Perception? 45:27 - Learn more about Robin Berthier 45:58 - Outro – Get your FREE cybersecurity training resources: https://www.infosecinstitute.com/free – View Cyber Work Podcast transcripts and additional episodes: https://www.infosecinstitute.com/podcast About Infosec Infosec’s mission is to put people at the center of cybersecurity. We help IT and security professionals advance their careers with skills development and certifications while empowering all employees with security awareness and phishing training to stay cyber-safe at work and home. More than 70% of the Fortune 500 have relied on Infosec Skills to develop their security talent, and more than 5 million learners worldwide are more cyber-resilient from Infosec IQ’s security awareness training. Learn more at infosecinstitute.com.