This week we're talking with Katie Johnson and Ilana Griffo from Loomier! Loomier is the ultimate resource for artists who mean business. Katie and Ilana are artists who have been in the industry for a long time and decided to start Loomier to help people turn their artistic passion into a sustainable business. In this interview we talk about finding your passion, following your passion, romanticizing your life and we even have a really great conversation about mental health.  Tag us and share your thoughts on social media if you're listening and resonate with anything we or a guest have shared lately—we LOVE seeing and connecting with you guys! Loomier Instagram Ilana's Instagram  Katie's Instagram Loomier.co FREE WEBINAR Links: Graphic Design Contract Template Black Friday code: BLACKFRIDAY gets you 50% off this month! Get 40% off an annual Skillshare membership here!!! designbeatpodcast.com Design Beat Instagram: @designbeatpodcast Lauren's website: laurenkunz.com Instagram: @laurenkunzzz Steph's website: martelloandco.com Instagram: @martello.co  Intro/Outro music: Mark Carlisle