I think you guys are going to be very excited about our guests today! This is our first interview ever with multiple guests! Today we are hearing from Phoebe and Roxy from PANDR! They create custom art installations and murals around the globe and one thing we really appreciate about them is that they are on a mission to end the starving artist stereotype. They have a plethora of resources for designers on their website and tons of helpful and fun content on their Instagram and TikTok as well. I'll link those in the show notes so have fun hopping into those rabbit holes! In this interview we talk about PANDR's origin story and how they got their start, red flags to watch out for when vetting potential clients, outreach and how important it is in landing clients, and some fun projects they have coming up! Phoebe and Roxy are fun and gracious and so generous in supporting the art community, you're going to love them! Tag us and share your thoughts on social media if you're listening and resonate with anything we or a guest have shared lately—we LOVE seeing and connecting with you guys! PANDR Website PANDR Instagram Phoebe and Roxy's book: Wonder Walls Ladies Who Paint Website Ladies Who Paint Instagram Other links: Graphic Design Contract Template Get 40% off an annual Skillshare membership here!!! designbeatpodcast.com Design Beat Instagram: @designbeatpodcast Lauren's website: laurenkunz.com Instagram: @laurenkunzzz Steph's website: martelloandco.com Instagram: @martello.co  Intro/Outro music: Mark Carlisle