Episodes
What happens when we get lost on our own sauce, our presentations, decks, vision work, and forget about the tactical and operational work we need to do so we can keep the design systems train moving along. Episode Transcripts
Published 04/07/23
We made it to episode 30! It's about time we talked about Design Delivery and why design system maintainers are so passionate about it. Can we as a design and product team agree to deliver artifacts, in one single format? I bet the design systems team can help with a framework for that. Episode Transcript
Published 03/27/23
Looking to learn more about design systems with some friends of the program, we talk to Val Poon, an early career designer at Info-Tech Research Group.
Published 03/13/23
With all this chat (pun included) about ChatGPT, how else can we utilize some programmable help with AI and automation. Plus, the differences between a sweet potato and a yam.  Episode Transcripts
Published 02/27/23
Davy and PJ answer listener questions that came in from some friends of the program. We touch on fun component library design only components, governance, office hours issue tracking, documentation, interviewing, and much more. Episode Transcripts
Published 02/13/23
With the rise of design system teams in orgs, Davy and PJ talk about how their roles have progressed through product design, and design ops. How have things changed while we have come in and out of IC > management? Today in our roles, what does IC leadership in Design Systems look like for us? Episode Transcripts
Published 01/30/23
Happy 2023 and 1st birthday to the podcast! We got a treat for those new the program, our greatest hits from the first 20 episodes. Timestamps: Ep 9: ROI (02:08), Ep 10: Hindsight (07:00), Ep 13: Feedback (11:42), Ep 18: Contributions (15:38), Ep 20: Education and Onboarding (19:59), Ep 2: Design Technologists (25:00), Ep 3: Releases (28:33), Ep 5: Figma is NOT a DS (30:54), Ep 6: Mandates (38:55), Ep 7: JIRA MORMONT (43:33).
Published 01/17/23
Welcome to the show 2023, even tho this was recorded in 2022. This is the last of our trilogy series, about how to get started in Design Systems. What happens after you get to year 2 and so on? Is your job done because everyone is bought in and good actors and advocates supporting the system? Episode Transcripts
Published 01/05/23
2nd in our series of the first years of design systems, Davy and PJ talk about how to grow the team, and where we have decided on our teams to focus on; which of the design system knobs, library, education, documentation, we decided to turn. Episode Transcript
Published 12/13/22
Originally episode 21, if not for our last special episode on layoffs, we talk about how to get a design system up and running, and things we looked to achieve in years 0-1. This ep is the first in a series of 3 episodes about getting started in design systems. Episode Transcripts
Published 11/30/22
During this rough week at Meta and Twitter, Davy and PJ discuss how to continuously prove ROI for yourself and your team in the light of operating on leaner teams.  Episode Transcripts
Published 11/10/22
Happy Halloween and 20th episode to us! Davy and PJ talk about how their teams support educating designers and the continuous task of training product designers, whether they are new to the org, or just new to the design system. Episode Transcripts
Published 10/31/22
Davy and PJ talk about different design system team make ups at Disney Streaming, Meta, and Pinterest. How federated vs centralized have worked for them; and how big does your team need to be? Episode Transcripts
Published 10/21/22
Davy and PJ talk about how they're thinking about contribution models on their teams and mechanisms to get better XFN collaboration between design and engineering. Episode Transcripts
Published 10/05/22
Davy and PJ react to the earth-shattering news that Adobe is “teaming up" with Figma, and what that may or may not mean to us. Episode Transcripts
Published 09/19/22
Davy and PJ discuss issues with copy cat design patterns and frameworks. What might work for your company may not work for the next. Design systems is not one size fits all, but fits most. Episode Transcripts
Published 09/15/22
Davy talks with PJ about various ways of automating design system and design ops tasks to help our day-to-day lives as worker-bees easier. Episode Transcripts
Published 08/31/22
Davy and PJ talk about their methods of design systems support, ranging from Davy's fave, Office Hours, to async support on Slack. A good episode candidate to do design systems bingo/drinking game.  Episode Transcripts
Published 08/18/22
PJ grills Davy about his super organized and sometimes outrageous file hygiene mandates he lead while working at Disney Streaming. How can you use organization and naming to drive better alignment across design and engineering partners? Episode Transcripts
Published 08/06/22
Davy and PJ talk about how we've incorporated design and engineering user feedback on our design system work. Leaning into surveys, PJ has had great success half-over-half by employing a new product framework.. listening.  Episode Transcripts
Published 07/18/22
Davy talks about speaking at his first design conference last month, UXDX. We talk about how to find your voice and how to get started for those whom want to engage more with the product design community. Episode Transcripts
Published 06/29/22
We took a long Memorial Day vacay and back to talk about adoption methods and get how to get designers excited to use your design system. Chatter about how different strategies apply for differing scale of teams.  Episode Transcripts
Published 06/07/22
Happy 10th episode birthday! We wanted to take a look at and see, knowing what we've known about working on design systems at our companies, what we wish we would have known had we started today. Episode Transcripts
Published 05/23/22
We're almost at episode 10, and we're here to talk about ROI, driving impact. It has to do with learning what leadership's long language is. Episode Transcripts
Published 05/13/22
We talk about a fun topic of scale, how to support multiple brands under 1 design system. Davy talks a bit about considerations when designing across Disney+ and Star+ and the usage of theming to design for one system in whole. Episode Transcripts
Published 04/27/22