Luke talks to Sheena Lydon, DPM on Design Systems at Wise, about what a Design Program Manager does on a design system team, why designops is an often overlooked piece of the design team puzzle, and how you get into a designops career.

Luke chats to Amy Hupe, a content specialist and design systems consultant who has worked on some of the biggest design systems in Europe. They chat about what a content specialist actually does, why they're the essential third pillar of a design system, what makes a good design system content...