Bret and Nirmal welcome Idit Levine, Founder/CEO Solo.io. Idit focuses on Service Mesh, API-GW and Multi-Cloud networking, and security. 💥 This episode is brought to you by our valued sponsor and friends at Uffizzi! 💥Platform teams need control.  Dev Teams need autonomy.  Uffizzi provides a multi-tenant, Kubernetes Native foundation that accomplishes both. Every engineer gets self-service, sandboxed virtual clusters. Every team can have templating that works for them - all within a managed control plane. Runs on our infrastructure or yours.Spin up your first sandbox cluster in under a minute on the Free Starter Tier at https://www.uffizzi.com Idit has been involved in the Containers/DevOps community for 10+ years, building products from Docker to Envoy to Kubernetes, and now Istio and Cilium. We talk about Istio, Ambient Mesh, Envoy, Zero-Trust Security, Cilium, eBPF, Multi-Cloud and more. This is not the first time we've talked about Solo or Service Mesh. Ambient Mesh is Solo's new product that simplifies the install and infrastructure costs of essentially running Istio. I'm really hopeful that this is going to help a lot more people implement Istio because traditionally, it does have a lot of parts and a lot of costs with the sidecar approach, but this new approach reduces the number of essentially proxies and parts that you're running on each node of your Kubernetes cluster. Live recording of the complete show from June 29, 2023 is on YouTube (Ep. #223). ★Topics★Solo.ioIstio Ambient MeshSolo Academy (free courses)Istio Ambient Mesh ebookGloo Fabric You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Get on the waitlist for my next live course on CI automation and gitops deployments. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.comCreators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Cristi Cotovan - Editor Beth Fisher - Producer Nirmal Mehta - Host Idit Levine - Guest (00:00) - Intro (04:38) - How did Solo.io start? (21:42) - The difference between service mesh and API gateway (31:34) - Where is service mesh going? (42:32) - Is Ambient Mesh as secure as the sidecar model? (48:50) - Opportunities after adopting Ambient Mesh (54:20) - Phipps compliance (56:25) - Unikernel vs WebAssembly