Bret is joined by Demetrius Malbrough and Joseph D'angelo from Veritas, the company that makes NetBackup amongst many other data protection tools. NetBackup has been around at least 25 years and I've been using it over 20 years, although not recently. So we had the two gentlemen from Veritas on the show to break down the evolution of NetBackup to a Kubernetes native backup solution. We also talked about additional products that make sense in a backup context, like their InfoScale storage management solution, and we tried to break down some of the technicals. What are we talking about when we mean deploying NetBackup on Kubernetes?  How does InfoScale fit into that? And generally, just helping me catch up with the last few years as NetBackup 10.0 has been released. I asked lots of questions and we got some interesting questions from the audience. The Live recording of the complete show from October 19, 2023 is on YouTube (Ep. #238). ★Topics★Veritas Kubernetes solutionsInfoScale Free Developer Edition60 day–trial of Veritas InfoScale for Kubernetes Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Cristi Cotovan - Editor Beth Fisher - Producer Demetrius Malbrough - Guest Joseph D'Angelo - Guest You can also support my free material by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news! Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Intro (01:15) - Introducing the guests (03:38) - The Evolution of NetBackup (07:45) - The NetBackup Pitch (10:52) - How is NetBackup Deployed? (13:28) - NetBackup From Before Containers (16:42) - High Level Features and InfoScale (21:33) - Backup Managed Services in Kubernetes (45:29) - Getting Started with InfoScale