Olivia Nuzzi is the Washington Correspondent for New York Magazine. For four-plus years it was her job to think about Donald Trump and his cohort every day. She talks to Lizzy about the emotional cost of that work, the morality of journalism in general, and explains why some of her most significant influences are stand-up comedians and rappers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices