We can’t really have a conversation about DEI without acknowledging that so many DEI efforts, so many DEI programs, so many DEI initiatives - they fail. But why? Why do so many DEI programs fail despite our leaders’ best intentions? Our guest today has some great insight. He says, “any effort to mitigate bias and grow inclusivity within an organization has to begin with its people. At the end of the day, organizations don’t change. People change.” Dr. Randal Pickett is an entrepreneur, innovator, and DEI expert. He’s the co-founder, chairman, and CEO of BCT Partners, a global research, training, and data analytics firm whose mission is to provide insights about diverse people that will lead to equity. Dr. Pinkett was also the first - and only - African American to win the top honor on the hit reality TV show “The Apprentice.” If you’d like to follow William & Mary’s School of Business or learn more about the Diversity and Inclusion podcast and our programs, please visit us at www.mason.wm.edu.