In this episode, we talk with Jon Cattivera of the long running emo/indie rock band Time Spent Driving about the new album Estrangers, differences between the various time periods of the band, the evolution of song writing topics, the impact of the "emo" genre tag, success as a younger band driving motivation, and being honest about attempting to achieve mainstream success. Plus, getting on movie and video game soundtracks, mature sounding music, physical copy, profanity in music, and touring while considering every day life. You can check out Time Spent Driving at the following locations: https://timespentdriving.com/ https://www.facebook.com/timespentdriving https://www.instagram.com/timespentdriving/ https://timespentdriving.bandcamp.com/ Paul works a day job and puts out vinyl and puts on shows via ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Katzulhu Productions⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/paul.neil.12⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/katzulhu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/Dont-Quit-Your-Day-Job-podcast-107924851339602