TL;DR: I crashed a party on Security Uncorked and the crew that was having the discussion was kind enough to indulge me and my "bombs" (questions, really) - so I decided to have JJ and Josh on DtSR, and James and I continued the debate and conversation. This was so much more fun than it should have been, but the result is something I think we can be happy with - a healthy debate, some conclusions reached, and a lot of "it depends". Take a listen and make up your own mind. Security Uncorked episode that started it all: https://www.linkedin.com/events/byod-makeitorbreakit-securityun7087427632488722432/comments/ YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/3zeyKpwuneU Guests Jennifer ("JJ") MinellaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferminella/Josh MarpetLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaviktor/Connect with DtSR on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/ Follow along on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast