Whirly Gig is a new book that looks at the making of Time Out Of Mind. Today we talk with author John Lewis who shares his insights based on a longtime friendship with TOOM Musician Jim Dickinson and his time in The Bob Dylan Archives in Tulsa - where he was able to listen to all 500 audio files from the Time Out Of Mind Sessions. John Lewis is a writer and curator living in Cambridge, MD. His work has appeared in Rolling Stone, Spin, The Oxford American, and many other publications. His profile of Ike Turner was included in The Oxford American Book of Great Music Writing. Lewis taught in Maryland Institute College of Art’s Curatorial Practice MFA program and co-curated Yummm! The History, Fantasy, and Future of Food, a 2017 exhibition at the American Visionary Art Museum. He is currently working on a documentary film about Globe Poster. We talk about his relationship with Dickinson, what Dickinson learned from his time with Bob Dylan, what John heard in Tulsa on the Time Out Of Mind Tapes, the relationship between Dickinson and Daniel Lanois, and more.  Our Dylan.FM Premium Members get an extended version of this conversation with an extra 30 minutes of discussion, as well as the option to watch the video version of our interview. Join us to go deep on Dylan with extended versions and videos of all of our podcasts, exclusive posts, access to special events, and more. To become a member click here.  This interview took place on February 13, 2023 LINKS: Whirly Gig Book Review - From Dylan.FM Order Whirly Gig Book - From Dorchester Power and Light DYLAN.FM Get The Extended Version Of This Interview - Become a Premium Member Sign Up For Our Free Weekly Dylan Newsletter on Substack Visit Out Tip-Jar To Donate To Contribute To Our Show