Laurence Nodder is the Rektor of UWC Robert Bosch College in Freiburg, Germany. That school, as well as Waterford Kamhlaba in eSwatini, where he worked before and where I was his student, are part of the UWC movement. We also speak about his experiences of working in education under apartheid, the racist system of segregation in place in South Africa from 1948 to the early 1990s. If you want to get an impression of education for Black students under apartheid, alongside the inspiring resistance that took place against it, the movie Sarafina is very much worth watching. If you have any comments or questions, I'd be happy to hear from you. Email me at [email protected] Theme music from https://filmmusic.io: "Zigzag" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ This podcast is powered by Pinecast.