Prof. Kathryn Rudy talks with artist Ilana Halparin. This podcast was made possible by the Knowledge Exchange and Impact fundi at the University of St Andrews. The hosts are  Dr Stephanie O'Rourke and Prof Kathryn Rudy FRSE. This series was mostly recorded on line because of the pandemic. With some live recording by John-Michael Kennedy. Sound production is by eggbox  audio, The editor was Zoë Irvin, and the assistant editor Molly Fredrickson. Music composed, played and recorded by Elizabeth Flett. With thanks to Calum McAndrew, Mhairi Stewart, Al McGowan, and the Royal Society of Edinburgh.