This time I’m trying something different. First, I’m speaking with two co-founders, Damian Milkins and Simon Hancock who built a hugely successful tech business called Control Circle and led it to a $65m exit. I let this one run longer than the usual 60 minutes because the guys were in full flow and there was no way I was going to cut this short -  there were just too many interesting stories and valuable words of wisdom. What you’ll hear is Damian and Simon explaining the vital importance of working with a co-founder who has different, but complementary strengths and how that was the secret sauce that drove much of their success. They also discuss how they incentivised their entire team through share options and the life-changing impact that had on many of their colleagues, from the most junior all the way up to the C Suite. And towards the end, Damian shares a passionate message about all the things that founders focus on when they start up a business and why it’s a complete waste of time. He also explains what you should focus on! This episode is simply a goldmine of inspired ideas learned at the front line of entrepreneurship. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Damian Milkins and Simon Hancock Links Damian Milkins  Simon Hancock Stuart Paterson - Scottish Equity Partners Arma Partners Amplify Life Brene Brown - The Man in the Arena This podcast is produced by GR Media Sponsored by Capital Asset Management