Zac wonders if Legacy just needs its own timeline for B&R announcements. In the last couple of years Legacy has been experiencing an influx of cards on the same level with Standard thanks to the increased product cycle of EDH products that skip over Modern/Pioneer/Standard. The hosts discuss the dominance of the Scaminator deck in Legacy and the need for a separate banlist announcement for the format. They explore the concept of sacred cows in Legacy and the cycle of banning symptoms rather than addressing the root causes. The hosts also discuss the challenges of learning to beat top decks and the frustration of constant rotation in the format. They suggest the need for explicit discussions about sacred cows and the importance of format curation. The conversation concludes with predictions about future bans and the impact of Universes Beyond cards. Takeaways Legacy needs a separate banlist announcement that focuses solely on the format's needs. The format's sacred cows, such as Days and Ancient Tomb, should be reevaluated to address the root causes of format health issues. The constant rotation of top decks and the reliance on transgressive cards create a frustrating and unenjoyable play experience. Clear communication from Wizards of the Coast about the format's direction and intentions is crucial for the community. Starting fresh with a new format or addressing the root causes of format issues can lead to a healthier and more enjoyable Legacy experience. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and the Dominance of Scaminator 01:42 Legacy's Need for a Separate Banlist Announcement 03:12 The Sacred Cows of Legacy 05:03 The Cycle of Banning Symptoms 07:23 The Coin Flip of the Format 08:59 The Challenge of Learning to Beat Top Decks 09:16 The Lack of Format Diversity 11:09 The Need for Explicit Sacred Cow Discussion 13:05 The Frustration of Constant Rotation 14:22 The Proletariat's Perspective 16:16 The Urgency to Ban Transgressive Cards 20:26 The Impact of Universes Beyond Cards 22:38 The Importance of Listening to the Community 25:21 The Need for Clear Communication from WotC 27:24 The Challenge of Cheesy Play Patterns 29:20 The Solution of Starting Fresh 31:45 The Prediction of No Bans Until MH3 JOIN US ON DISCORD: https://discord.gg/hrC7PxQZTE Use our 5% code "DURDLES" at TALES OF ADVENTURE: https://www.toamagic.com/ Eternal Durdles Moxfield: https://www.moxfield.com/users/EternalDurdles https://www.moxfield.com/users/Durdlemagus https://www.moxfield.com/users/ForceofPhil Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/EternalDurdles Check out our song parodies on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/forceofphil Follow us on Twitter: Zac: @durdlemagus Phil: @ForceofPhil We are edited by: https://gullaudio.com & https://www.youtube.com/@PipGoblinBattleCaster OUR Background graphic: AA-vfx Art Store https://www.shaharhatfila.com/en AA VFX- 8K & 4K Most Viewed Motion backgrounds channel @aavfx @aa_vfx @aavfx_art http://4kmotionbackgrounds.blogspot.com/ Moving Backgrounds, Backdrops, Animated Live Wallpapers! HD & UHD Videos 2160p, 4320p , VJ Loops, VFX Animations! Dozens of playlists: Tutorials, Effects, Compilations: @dvdangor2011 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eternaldurdles/support