Dr. Caetano Dorea is a Professor, Department of Civil Engineering, at the University of Victoria. His interests and expertise are at the crossroads of environmental and public health engineering. You can learn more about his Public Health & Environmental Engineering (PH2E) Lab research here, his publications here, and follow him on Twitter here. We talk about the stigma around sanitation-and in particular 'shit'-and the 'flush and forget' culture. Caetano discusses the stigma experienced by sanitation workers, how sanitation services and water treatment are being reframed to show their value,  gendered sanitation needs and experiences, and how sanitation systems must address the needs of the most marginalized (and the relevance of Paul Farmer's teachings), and how we need to transform (and learn more about!) these sanitation systems we use every day. And the importance of toilet humour! Episode hosted by Dr. Carmen Logie. Supported by funding from the Canada Foundation for Innovation and Canada Research Chairs program. Original music and podcast produced by Jupiter Productions, who have various production services available to support your podcast needs.