What sets the stage for profound, scalable success in ministry? How do we navigate the roadblocks of old paradigms to ignite fresh and meaningful ministry practices? In this episode our hosts Drew and Tim engage in a thought-provoking dialogue with special guest Stephen Webb (Swebb) to address these questions, unpacking striking realities facing modern ministry. Connect with Swebb here: https://www.swebb.fyi/ https://www.instagram.com/stephenpwebb/ Join our Group on Facebook- Eyes on Jesus podcast community ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/eyesonjesuspodcast/ Email feedback, questions or show topic ideas to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Be sure to connect with the hosts! For more information on Drew Barker: Follow Drew on ⁠Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pastordrewbarker?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more information on Tim Ferrara: Get all his links in one place- to his social media, all 3 of his books, and more ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠at https://linktr.ee/discerning_dad ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out his website! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discerning-dad.com/