Ceri interviews artist and curator Paula Orrell, Director of the Contemporary Visual Arts Network England, about making the arts more equitable. Paula shares how artists can be effective leaders in creating change, gives advice for creatives on using tools like programming and art writing to build community, and makes recommendations on advocating for the arts. She discusses key skills needed today like lateral thinking, holding complexity, and "deeper listening" across differences. Paula also opens up about managing dyslexia and finding the courage to influence government ministers on the value of contemporary art. KEY TAKEAWAYS Contemporary art questions ideas, transforms people's lives and serves a public purpose even if not everyone visits galleries. Its value must be reimagined. Funding cuts over decades are severely impacting artists and arts organisations; we likely won't see change for 5+ years. Connect with those working toward equity like Migrants in Culture to exchange ideas. Break boundaries between arts institutions. Centre artists' positions and insights to understand what society needs now. Policymakers must listen more deeply. Develop thick skin yet retain ethical passion. Influence happens through relationships, not just facts and figures. Create visual systems to manage tasks and shake off worries so you can think clearly. Go outdoors. Show courage by continually learning history and discussing issues, even when uncomfortable. Success includes substantively tackling ableism and racism through staff roles focused on equity. BEST MOMENTS  "It's about creating, curating exhibitions in a way to talk about things happening in the world." "I have to communicate the distinction between a museum and an artist-led project in a studio." "I've seen it transform people's lives...That opportunity often isn't there for people to see art as a career." "Taking our egos out of it is important, to really think about others and listen, even if you don't agree." "I knew nothing about Palestine's history. Why weren't we talking about this at university?" "I use sticky notes because I see that word and it reminds me, I need to do that." "If I can create a new job focused on equity, that would be an incredible success." PODCAST HOST BIO Meet Ceri Hand, the driving force behind countless creative success stories. A creative coach, entrepreneur, and dynamic speaker, she's committed to empowering creatives to realise their dreams and make a meaningful impact through her creative coaching, mentoring and training company. With three decades in the arts under her belt, Ceri has ridden the highs, the lows, and everything in between. Now, she's here to help you achieve your goals, your way. **** Do you love making art and long to make more money from your work? If the answer is yes, we have exciting news for you! Ceri Hand's transformative course ‘How To Price And Sell Your Art’ is now available for a very special price, only for the month of January. This course offers an incredibly rare opportunity to take part in monthly group coaching calls with Ceri herself. Alongside these unique sessions, you'll receive self-study course materials packed with insider intel, guidance and advice, teaching you all you need to know to understand the commercial art world and make more money doing what you love. What are you waiting for? https://www.cerihand.com/price-and-sell-your-art/ [email protected] @cerihand