Elise Loehnen is extraordinary. A gifted writer, storyteller, content creator, podcast host, marketer, thought leader and media executive, her impact has been felt by women everywhere - from goop’s loyal following of impactful celebrities, to those of us who commended her bold exploration in the goop lab Netflix series that she also co-hosted. While she is probably best known as the former Chief Content Officer and Editor-at-Large for goop, Elise has been recognized for more than a decade, as a co-author of 11 books, where her special gift for bringing other creators' vision to life, resulted in 5 of them becoming best sellers. Having stepped down from goop to write a book under her own name for a division of Penguin Random House, Elise is at an exciting turning point in her own career. Now shifting from her safe place of acting as a “doula” for other people’s ideas, to now stepping into what we believe is her rightful place as a contemporary voice of change. In this conversation, Karen and Elise discuss everything from the loss of an immediate loved one, something that so many of us have had to reckon with during this pandemic, to her early upbringing and first jobs in publishing - all of which have been important aspects of her journey as an author and thought leader committed to never just scratching the surface.