“Is a microbe less natural than a cow?” This season we ask scientists, farmers, technologists and philosophers about how natural our food systems should be. In this age where industrial technology has profoundly transformed our eating habits and the landscapes around us, we explore whether we should let nature be our ultimate guide or fully lean into the technological innovations reshaping our world. From the traditional milpa systems of Mexico to the cutting edge laboratories of food scientists, we bring together voices across the spectrum: an economist, an indigenous leader, a food technologist and an agroecologist. Each presents their perspective on the benefits—or drawbacks—of 'natural' food systems for both human health and the planet's well-being. For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode55 Guests Anna Lappé, Executive Director of the Global Alliance for the Future of Food Jayson Lusk, Dean and Vice President of Agriculture at Oklahoma State UniversityTania Eulalia Martinez Cruz, Director of the Food Sovereignty and Agroecology program at Land is LifeJohan Jorgensen, Founder Partner at Sweden Food Tech Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.