Show Notes: (https://femaleguidesrequested.com/podcast/ep-12-lani-chapko-paving-the-way/) Lani’s Links: Lani’s personal Instagram @goatsonropesThe Climbing School Instagram @the_climbing_schoolThe Climbing School Website www.theclimbingguides.comEpisode Intro: Hello there, happy Wednesday again and welcome to another episode of the Female Guides Requested Podcast. I’m your host Ting Ting. I’m still in Pacific Northwest but will be heading back to Las Vegas soon. Today’s guest is Lani Chapko. She is an AMGA Certified Rock Guide and Alpine Guide. She is based in Index Washington and owns a guide service, The Climbing School, with her partner Sam. Lani and I first met several years ago while guiding in Red Rock. Since then I’ve been following her adventures on Instagram. She has done amazing feats on El Cap and extended her skills and climbing prowess beyond Yosemite — including a first ascent of a grade VI route on Mt Index and a 5.12d big wall free climb in Mexico. I was glad that I finally had the chance to interview Lani at her small shed in Index. She was unassuming and perhaps because we both went to engineering school we shared many viewpoints and trouble shooting insights on technical systems and in general how to be a better trad climber. I felt as if I found a long lost friend. We talked about her little bumpy ride entering the guiding realm, the excitement and challenges she had experienced becoming a business owner, her outlook on how to make guiding more professional and sustainable, and more. I had a great time talking with Lani and found new nuggets relistening and editing the podcast. I bet you’ll enjoy our conversation too. Things We Talked about: Why Index? the last affordable mountain town and the best climbing in the world?Studied mechanical engineering. and during college got “thrown into guiding”Being a woman in a traditionally male dominated play field – always feeling the need to be overprepared in order to prove themselvesTaking AMGA courses in a short time frameWorked in mechanical engineering again but went back to guiding. Comparing two different jobs. and why guiding is more attractivePersonal climbing goals versus full time guiding. Can we accomplish both at the same time?Becoming a business owner. Is it the best way or the only way to make a better living in the guiding industry?The benefits of starting a guide service in Washington stateHow to operate internationallyCompare working for other guide services and her own guide serviceWant to grow but also want to stay small to reduce overhead and provide better coursesFavorite part of guidingNavigate through the non-guiding part of the businessClimbing outfit and should a guide dress in a certain way? What is professionalism in guiding?Being small in figure. Is it a disadvantage? How should we adapt?Injuries?Role models and mentorsBig Wall classes… and more