I'll be honest, I didmd know a lot about surrogacy, and had only really heard stories regarding celebrity couples. September Burton from the Hawaii Surrogacy clinic reached out to me to ask to feature on the podcast, and I was intrigued to find out more, re surrogacy itself and also, the idea off surrogacy tourism. We hear increasingly about IVF tourism, although I accept, not at the moment as this was recored during the cover pandemic.