This week, we get to hear a very personal and insightful conversation about late bloomers and the evolution of an ugly duckling from our well spoken guest, James Liao. Most of us think of being a late bloomer in terms of physical appearance and romantic relationships. While those are major players in the conversation, James walks us through the not-so-skin-deep shifts in his social, relational, career and personality that also played a big hand in being a late bloomer. Minji and James talk about their contrasting adolescent experiences of being hyper aware of social hierarchies versus being shut off and bullied, their role models or lack thereof, and how being a "bloomer" and gaining access to social capital can shape them for better or worse.