This season we are interviewing people we think are next-level in light of Ryan's new book called Leveling Up: 12 Questions to Elevate your Personal and Professional Development. Today's guest is Jonathan Angulo. He represents one of the top mortgage lenders in the country and helps people navigate recessions personally and organizationally. In this episode, we will explore the concept of having a recession growth mindset and how it can help individuals and businesses navigate uncertain times. We will discuss strategies for developing a positive outlook and fostering resilience in the face of economic challenges. We will also examine the importance of financial planning, pivoting and embracing change, and learning new skills to remain competitive in a shifting job market.