A conversation that includes “cosmic nihilism” has always gotten someplace good, and Kate & Kathryn go there and dive deep with Vikram Paralkar, author of NIGHT THEATER and oncologist at the University of Pennsylvania, whose novel imagines the afterlife as a bureaucracy and touches upon themes of morality and “mattering.”Enjoying the show and want occasional bonus content? Please consider becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/freecookies

Kate and Kathryn discuss the concept of food tethering the soul to the body, and how far away some of us have gotten from that idea, then they are joined by the inimitable Kristen Kish, author of Kristen Kish Cooking and Top Chef, who talks about the small lessons that stick with her and, most importantly, her fierce backward hat game. 

Kate and Kathryn bring on producer Lindsay Collins to talk about her sketch comedy creation, an espresso-guzzling zebra — a conversation in keeping with the flavor of the show’s main guest, Jean Kyoung Frazier, author of the book PIZZA GIRL, which includes one of Kathryn’s favorite snippets of dialogue ever written and has inspired her pizza-topping game. 

Kathryn and Kate deconstruct the #challengeaccepted campaign on Instagram, why they didn’t do it, and what “women supporting women” in action looks like — it looks exactly like what the WNBA has done this season, which is why K&K are joined by WNBA all-star Layshia Clarendon for an inside look at social justice in action and the league’s #sayhername campaign. 

Before chatting with debut — and New York Times bestselling! — novelist Megha Majumdar, Kate and Kathryn discuss a fascinating new quirk in one of their dogs (will any listeners relate?) as well as the brand-new women’s soccer league franchise in Los Angeles. 

Kathryn and Kate discuss their thoughts on ... making a baby! ... (should they? Is it the right time?) all in honor of their guest, Latham Thomas, doula, founder of Mama Glow, and author of Own Your Glow. 

Kate and Kathryn talk with internationally bestselling author Anthony Horowitz (19 million copies sold!) about the origin and fruition of ideas, the anatomy of writing a murder mystery, how writing saved his life,  and whether or not Clue is his favorite movie. 

In honor of the last day of Pride Month, Kate and Kathryn discuss their favorite LGBTQ+ movies and TV shows (Kathryn impressively manages to butcher every title) before bringing on award-winning author of THE HOUSE IN THE CERULEAN SEA, TJ Klune. TJ walks us through his magical cast of characters, the importance of queer representation in literature, how writing calms the storm in his head, and why J.K. Rowling is breaking our hearts.

Kate and Kathryn talk about decolonizing their bookshelves then talk with guest, Quentin Vennie, author of the memoir Strong in the Broken Places. Quentin discusses his thoughts on racial equity, growing up Black in Baltimore, his battle with anxiety, and holding members of the wellness world accountable.

Nicole Cardoza, yoga teacher and founder of Yoga Foster and Reclamation Ventures, joins Kate and Kathryn to discuss her controversial experience with Yoga Journal, inclusivity in the wellness world, and her Anti-Racist Daily Newsletter. Find and support her work on Patreon.

“Writing is an act of courage.” These words are stenciled in the home of today’s inimitable guest, Sue Monk Kidd, and her newest NYT bestselling novel THE BOOK OF LONGINGS is proof of that conviction. Sue eloquently explains both her evolution as a writer, discovering she was homesick for herself, and the emotional impetus for one of the loveliest prayers ever written. This episode is EVERYTHING.

Kate and Kathryn talk with George M. Johnson, author of the new YA memoir/manifesto, ALL BOYS AREN’T BLUE, about the importance of queer stories for kids, as well as the almost criminal lack of sex education in schools — especially for LGBTQ kids. 

For those days where you can’t decide between Steel Magnolias or Dracula, look no further: Grady Hendrix, NYT bestselling author of The Southern Book Club’s Guide to Slaying Vampires, joins K + K to entertain you with his dazzling wit, southern hospitality, and affinity for everything that goes bump in the night. K + K are also joined by producer Lindsay to discuss the recent Alison Roman and Chrissy Teigen drama and their collective thoughts on cancel culture

Kate and Kathryn, inspired by the haunting protagonist of MY DARK VANESSA, discuss how the brain works to make the broken parts of life fit our story. They’re then joined by NYT bestselling author, Kate Elizabeth Russell, to further explore the concepts or obsession, dedication and how to let your character speak for herself. 

Calling all lovers of myth, story and rosy-fingered dawns ... Kate and Kathryn geek out with Madeline Miller, the award-winning, New York Times bestselling author of CIRCE and SONG OF ACHILLES. The trio discuss history’s unwritten characters and why the classics will keep you humble. 

K + K chat with Melissa Albert, the New York Times Bestselling author of The Hazel Wood and The Night Country. Trust us: These aren’t your Disney fairytales. Melissa divulges her attraction to darkness, what it’s like to create original fairytales, and the greatest of all mysteries ... what is in her stew? Bonus: Kathryn puts on her best storyteller voice and reads from one of her favorite tales, The Snow Queen.

Emily St John Mandel, author of Station Eleven and the newly released The Glass Hotel, chats with Kate and Kathryn about her most recent book, the idea of counter lives, money as its own country, and Kate’s proclivity toward disasters. If you haven’t read her National Book Award nominated Station Eleven, yes — the time is now! 

Calling all storytellers! Kate and Kathryn talk with Will Storr, the best-selling author of The Science of Storytelling, about how our brain tells stories, cause and effect, what makes elevated storytelling and how Odysseus most definitely was the OG hustler.

Kate and Kathryn wanted to understand how this pandemic is effecting small businesses, so they spoke with a yoga entrepreneur (Gina Caputo of Colorado School of Yoga), boutique owner (Stacy Smallwood of Hampden Clothing), cafe owner (Jon Echeverry of Paper Plane Coffee) and restauranteurs (Melody and Michael Shemtov of Butcher & Bee). Also, from now on: we dunk at 8pm.

Kate and Kathryn, live from Blue Bicycle Books in Charleston, chat with Alison Roman, NYT Cooking columnist, bestselling author of Nothing Fancy, and Mother of Stews. Oh, and K + K kick it off with dinosaur erotica.

Kate and Kathryn are back and they are CHEETAHS! And they’ve brought with them the funny and brilliant Glennon Doyle, author of UNTAMED, her brand new #1 NYT memoir/manifesto filled with insights. 

K&K are joined by Victoria and Tamal Dodge, whose new book, The Yoga Plate, has hit shelves. The group talks about judgement-free veganism, “doing the least harm”, and everything from the wolves in Yellowstone to Gandhi.

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Kate and Kathryn pull back the curtain on Season 3 and what the game-plan is going forward.

Kate and Kathryn chat about Kathryn’s newest creation, then Kathryn (🎶Ridin’ Solo🎶) brings on the Goop Fellas — Seamus Mullen and Will Cole — to get real about the wellness world.