Chandler Klebs, George Ortega, and Jamie Soden talk about the first cause argument for the existence of God. Chandler's basic premise is that the argument from first cause is actually an argument that presupposes that determinism is true.... This item has files of the following types: Archive BitTorrent, Columbia Peaks, Essentia High GZ, Essentia Low GZ, Metadata, Ogg Vorbis, PNG, Spectrogram, VBR MP3