In this week’s episode, we interview Jessica from The Fioneers and talk about designing a life you don’t want to retire from. Jess spends a lot of time talking, thinking, and writing about how people can use the financial freedom they build along the way to Financial Independence (FI) to design a life they don't want to retire from. We also talk with Jess about changes she’s seen in the FIRE movement over the years, the power of community, how to leverage experimentation to build confidence, and her exciting custom campervan buildout.