In this Future Materials Encounter, Giulia Bellinetti, coordinator of the Jan van Eyck Future Materials programme, talks with material designer Eline ten Busschen and designer, artist, researcher Pei-Ying Lin about wool and new technologies applied to weaving techniques. They discuss ecologies of materials and complex systems, materials' temperament that emerge during experimentation, A.I. and the blurring of boundaries between natural and digital realms in textile design.  Eline ten Busschen is a product designer with a strong interest in exploring waste streams and their surfaces. Eline believes there is an ecology in the way materials are treated and has adopted a holistic approach that think about the whole lifecycle of a material. Her project SURPLUS, on the Future Materials Bank, features non-woven textiles, using discarded wool fibers held together through 3D printing techniques.  Pei-Ying Lin is an artist, designer and researcher based in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. Her main focus is on the combination of science and human society through artistic methods, focus she recently expanded towards the manipulation of the boundaries between invisible/visible, living/non-living and finding ways to build tools and methods that facilitate such explorations. She has won the Honorary Mention in Hybrid Arts Category of Ars Electronica 2015, and was among the first group of Taiwanese artists-in-residence of the program of Accelerate@CERN. She is currently conducting a PhD research at the TU Eindhoven on AI technologies applied to weaving techniques.  The podcast is part of a miniseries of Future Materials Encounters organized in the context of The Living Archive, the closing exhibition of the InnovatieLab programme, at the Dutch Design Week 2023.  Visit our website for more information about the Jan van Eyck Academie, our participants, and programme.