Equality Australia CEO Anna Brown's fingerprints are on nearly every major reform for LGBTIQ+ people in recent years. She played a critical role in the campaign for marriage equality and has been instrumental in the battle to remove discriminatory laws across the country, and right historical wrongs by establishing schemes to erase historical homosexual offences. In this discussion with Helen McCabe, Anna discusses the importance of playing the long game when it comes to change, the strategies used in the successful 'Yes' campaign in the 2017 marriage equality debate, and her secret to connecting with anyone across the political spectrum. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.