In this episode, Wes sits down with Amy Moore, the Dean of Academic Affairs for a local trade school here in Tulsa. Wes and Amy discuss the state of the trades in 2023, and why choosing a trade instead of a college degree might make sense. As someone with both extensive in-the-trenches experience in the trades and a post-graduate degree (she's currently finishing up her doctorate), Amy brings a really unique perspective to this discussion.