It’s Halloween in July as Gilbert and Frank celebrate the 90th anniversaries (1931-2021) of Universal Studios' original "Dracula" and "Frankenstein" by welcoming Oscar-winning makeup creator Rick Baker and author-historian David J. Skal for a fascinating conversation about sympathetic monsters, mad scientists (real and imagined), the origin of horror films, the genius of Jack Pierce and the premature deaths of Colin Clive, Dwight Frye and Lon Chaney. Also, David interviews Carla Laemmle, Rick turns Martin Landau into Bela Lugosi, Glenn Strange appears in Boris Karloff's obit and Bram Stoker's widow tries to kill off "Nosferatu." PLUS: Ghoulardi! "Man of a Thousand Faces"! The influence of Forrest J. Ackerman! Bette Davis (almost) plays the Bride of Frankenstein! And the boys (once again) try to make sense of "The Black Cat"! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices