On this episode of Girlboss Radio, Avery chats with Dayna Isom Johnson, Etsy's resident trend expert. If that job sounds really cool, that's because it is. Dayna spends her days interpreting data and trend insights and talking about creativity to uplift and promote Etsy's 5.4 million makers. She makes frequent TV appearances and talks to the media about emerging design trends. Yup, she knew about cottagecore way before the rest of us did. Dayna did not apply for the job she has now—but she created it by zeroing in what she loved to do and asking Etsy's leadership to create a role that fit her talent and excitement. Avery and Dayna talked about the unusual way Dayna figured out her dream job, how to tell if a company will be a great place to work from the interview stage and play a special round of In or Out: Design Trends Edition. Follow Dayna on Instagram at @daynaisomjohnson. PS: You can buy your very own Etsy personalized drinking glass at etsy.com! Listen to A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every Monday. Sign up for Girlboss Daily, our must-read morning newsletter, at girlboss.com/newsletter. You'll get A+ career advice, dream job postings, free coffee every Friday and a few emojis (because we’re fun like that), delivered right to your inbox. Looking for your next dream employee? Post your open role on our Girlboss Job Board at jobs.girlboss.com. Girlboss Goods, our women-owned and operated marketplace, makes it easier for you to vote with your dollar while also championing small businesses. Head to girlboss.com/goods. Happy shopping!