Jesus was famously a carpenter, and many religious texts associate carpentry with wisdom, humility, and devotion. So, is there something divine about working with wood? Woodwork is the most ancient of crafts. It can offer both solitude and companionship, teach us lessons about patience and failure, and connect us to place, people and stories.  Guests: Phoebe Everill, furniture maker and woodwork teacher from Drummond, Victoria  Father Dan Groody, Professor of Theology at the University of Notre Dame, Indiana Barry Golding, Honorary Professor in adult and community education at Federation University, author of Shoulder to Shoulder: Broadening the Men’s Shed Movement