Consequence Podcast Network and Sound Mind Live are kicking off Season 4 of Going There by talking with musician and singer-songwriter Jordan Edward Benjamin, better known as Grandson. You may know Grandson from his breakout hit song "Blood//Water" which he performed on Late Night with Seth Meyers in 2018. Then in 2020 Grandson released his debut studio album, Death of an Optimist. One review of the album said, “He’s doing his own thing and doing it with a style, vulnerability, and fire that deserves all the eyes, ears, and attention that it can garner.” And Grandson released his new album on May 5th called I Love You, I’m Trying and starting an international tour May 12th. Check out Grandson’s music, tour dates and merchandise at Grandsonmusic.com Grandson joins host Dr. Mike Friedman to talk about his mental health journey including his struggle with suicidal thoughts, and how he understands optimism as a form of coping.  As a warning in case this topic is triggering for you, we will be discussing suicidality as part of our conversation. If you are struggling with suicidal thoughts and would like to speak with someone confidentially, please dial the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. Those in need of mental health assistance can check out the Sound Mind Live resources page for a list of helplines, community programs, therapy links, and more. Listen to Grandson talk about his mental health journey. Also, make sure you like, review, and subscribe to Going There with Dr. Mike via your favorite podcast provider. You can also follow the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our shows. Season 4 of Going There with Dr. Mike is brought to you by AbbVie, who is driving the pursuit of better mental health. Over the last 30 years, AbbVie’s scientists and clinicians have worked to tackle the complexity of mental illness and today offer a portfolio of medicines and a pipeline of innovation that spans depression, anxiety, bipolar 1 disorder, and schizophrenia. To learn more about AbbVie’s work to support individuals throughout their mental health journey, please visit www.AbbVie.com or follow at AbbVie on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and LinkedIn.