Over the course of a couple of months, Fred and I spent a lot of time writing back and forth about mystery and uncertainty with the intention of bringing that conversation to the podcast. Fred Provenza is well known for his research contributions to the field of livestock nutrition and behavior, but this conversation goes beyond that and into the great unknown. Fred is, at his heart, teacher and student both, sharing his curiosity as ‘a cosmic voyager’ here on earth. Through that lens, we explore cultivating a childlike sense of wonder at the interconnectedness of life and all the ‘whys’. We talk about finding and embracing who you are - and supporting it as parents and teachers. Fred shares about how illness changed his outlook and brought him, for a time, to a space of oneness. Ultimately, the conversation is about the uncertainty and transitory nature of life. It is wide-ranging and, I hope, heartwarming.  Find Fred: Nourishment by Fred Provenza Timestamps: 00:00:00: Kate shares about getting back on the wagon post hiatus 00:11:30: Fred and Kate drop right into the deep end  00:16:45: Finding a childlike sense of wonder  00:27:57: Everything is interconnected, on a continuum 00:42:31: We are participators, boundaries are arbitrary, relationships matter 01:02:43: Seeing connections looking backward on life 01:11:45: Animal teachers - behavior, parenting, and beyond 01:20:27: We are part of ‘place’ 01:27:57: Finding oneness through illness 01:44:42: Cultivating conversation and a new educational paradigm 01:51:34: Be who you are and nurture that in children 02:07:00: Embracing uncertainty 02:15:55: Everything is transitory Books: The Fifth Discipline by Peter Senge Dying to Be Me by Anita Moorjani Power of Now by Eckharte Tolle The Experience of Nothingness by Nisargadatta Maharaj Support: Substack Patreon Leave a one-time Tip Current Discounts for MBS listeners: 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV1520% off Home of Wool using code KATEKAVANAUGH for 10% off15% off Bon Charge blue light blocking gear using code: MINDBODYSOIL15 Join the Ground Work Collective: Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com Find Kate: @kate_kavanaugh More: a href="https://groundworkcollective.com" rel="noopener noreferrer"...