Scott Carney makes his second appearance on the podcast to talk about his new book Dream: the Art and Science of Slumber. It's a deliciously short book that reframes sleep. It's a little bit science and a little bit art and it manages to quote Jurassic Park once, so it's a big win. In this episode, Scott and I chase some rabbits around ideas related to sleep. Have we couched sleep in the language of economic productivity and forgotten what it is to dream? Does our sleep distill our life into emotions and do those exist to form the basis of our memories and who we are in waking life? What does the spectrum between sleep and wake say about our consciousness? We also touch in on Scott's dreams of anacondas and what a rumen does anyway. This is a podcast that gives you, amongst many things, permission to dream. Find Scott: Scott's Most Recent Book: Dream: the Art and Science of Slumber Scott's YouTube Scott's Instagram: @sgcarney Scott's Other Books Previous MBS Episode with Scott Books Mentioned: the Experience Machine by Andy Clark Saving Time by Jenny Odell Now by Richard Muller Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman Yoga Nidra by Kamini Desai Support the Podcast: Substack Leave a one-time Tip Connect with Kate: Instagram email: [email protected] Current Discounts for MBS listeners: 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV1510% off Home of Wool using code KATEKAVANAUGHKateK20 for 20% off Herbal Face FoodMINDBODYSOIL_15 for 15% off Redmond Real Salt