Transcript Address: https://share.descript.com/view/mD2bkZXa9UO Join us as Garry of the History in the Bible Podcast and Steve explore alternative historical scenarios within early Christianity, focusing on potential impacts if Marcionism or Manichaeism had predominated over orthodox Christianity. Garry and Steve delve into the history and principles of these movements, their potential to reshape Christian doctrine by excluding Judaic elements or integrating with other religions, and the socio-political consequences within the Roman Empire. In this conversation we also touch on the role of Constantine in legalizing Christianity, the influence of Arianism, and how different religious trajectories could have affected the spread of Islam in Europe.   00:00 Diving Into Speculative History: The Marcionite Scenario 00:02 Exploring the Impact of Marcionism on Early Christianity 00:20 The Rise and Fall of Marcion in Rome 02:16 What If Marcionism Had Prevailed?  03:52 Transitioning to Dutch Influences on English 04:50 Speculating on Marcionism's Potential Influence 07:49 Introducing the Manichean Challenge to Christianity 08:07 The Spread and Influence of Manichaeism 09:47 Debating Manichaeism's Threat to Christianity 17:58 Exploring the Potential of Arianism 24:40 Concluding Thoughts on Religious Speculations   You can learn more about the History of Papacy and subscribe at all these great places: https://atozhistorypage.start.page To Subscribe: https://www.spreaker.com/show/history-of-the-papacy-podcast_1 Email Us: [email protected] Support Us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/historyofthepapacy Parthenon Podcast Network: parthenonpodcast.com The History of the Papacy on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@atozhistory Help out the show by ordering these books from Amazon! https://smile.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1MUPNYEU65NTF Music Provided by: "Sonatina in C Minor" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Funeral March for Brass" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Crusade Heavy Perfect Loop" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)  Agnus Dei X - Bitter Suite Kevin MacLeaod (incomptech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/